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The 700 Club - February 15, 2017

Meet those standing by to keep you safe on Sunday morning. Plus, the pastor’s wife at the center of a storm. Riva Tims opens up about the scandal that claimed her husband’s life. Read Transcript


TODAY...THEY'RE THE

ONES STANDING ON GUARD TO

KEEP YOU SAFE ON SUNDAY

MORNING.

THEY KNOW WHAT TO LOOK

FOR AND THEY KNOW HOW TO

RESPOND TO CRISIS.

THEN...THE PASTOR'S

WIFE AT THE CENTER OF THE

STORM.

REBA TIM OPENS UP ABOUT

THE SCANDAL THAT CLAIMED

HER HUSBAND'S LIFE.

> AND...AN ACCIDENT

LEAVES A BIKER WITH A HOLE

IN HIS HEAD.

HE NEEDED DESPERATE

HEALING FROM CHRIST.

ON TODAY'S "700 CLUB."

Pat: WELL, WELCOME TO

"THE 700 CLUB."

THE TOP STORY, OF COURSE,

IS THAT MICHAEL FLYNN, THE

NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR

TO THE PRESIDENT, IS OUT.

BUT THE QUESTION IS: WHO

LEAKED?

WHO IS IT THAT IS THE

HOLDOVER FROM THE OBAMA

ADMINISTRATION THAT IS

TRYING TO DESTROY

PRESIDENT TRUMP AND HIS

AIDES.

THAT'S THE STORY.

AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO

FIND OUT WHAT IT IS THAT

IS GOING ON, AND WHAT THE

PARTICIPANTTHEPENALTIES FOR DOING WHAT

THEY ARE DOING ARE.

Wendy: ALL OF THAT IS

HAPPENING WHILE PRESIDENT

TRUMP IS MEETING WITH

ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER

BENJAMIN NETANYAHU.

GARY LANE HAS THE STORY.

Reporter: MICHAEL

FLYNN'S CONTROVERSIAL

COMMUNICATION WITH THE

RUSSIAN AMBASSADOR TO THE

U.S. OCCURRED BEFORE HE

AND PRESIDENT TRUMP TOOK

OFFICE O.

OFFICE.

DEMOCRATS ARE DEMANDING AN

INVESTIGATION.

BUT REPUBLICANS SUGGEST

ANY INVESTIGATION MUST

ALSO ASK THE QUESTION:

WHAT DID PRESIDENT OBAMA

KNOW AND WHEN DID HE KNOW

IT?

THAT'S BECAUSE F.B.I.

MONITORING OF FLYNN'S

PRIVATE COMMUNICATIONS

REQUIRED PERMISSION FROM

SOMEONE.

EITHER THE PRESIDENT AT

THE TIME, BARACK OBAMA, OR

A WARRANT ISSUED BY A

FEDERAL JUDGE.

ON CAPITOL HILL SENATOR

JOHN McCAIN EXPRESSED

CONCERN.

OBVIOUSLY THERE IS AN

ADMINISTRATION THAT IS IN

SIGNIFICANT DISARRAY AS

FAR AS NATIONAL SECURITY

IS CONCERNED.

Reporter: BUT THE

WHITE HOUSE INSISTS THE

ONLY THREAT TO THE

NATION'S SECURITY MAY BE

COMING FROM LEAKS OF

SENSITIVE OR CLASSIFIED

INFORMATION.

THE FLYNN'S RESIGNATION

WAS ALSO HIS INABILITY TO

TRUST THE INTELLIGENCE

COMMUNITY.

IN THE CASE OF FLYNN, THE

PRESIDENT WANTS TO KNOW

WHO PROVIDED THE

INFORMATION TO THE

"WASHINGTON POST"?

WAS IT AN OBAMA HOLDOVER

ACTING POLITICALLY TO

DAMAGE THE NEW PRESIDENT

AND HIS ADMINISTRATION?

MEANWHILE, AT THE WHITE

HOUSE TODAY, FOREIGN

SECURITY THREATS WILL TOP

THE AGENDA FOR BOTH THE

UNITED STATES AND ISRAEL.

THE ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER

MEETS WITH PRESIDENT

TRUMP, TO DISCUSS IRAN,

SYRIA, AND THE

PALESTINIANS.

THE MEETING WILL BE THE

FIRST SINCE TRUMP BECAME

PRESIDENT.

FOR THE PAST EIGHT YEARS,

RELATIONS WITH ISRAEL HAVE

BEEN TURBULENT AT TIMES,

EVEN THOUGH PRESIDENT

OBAMA SAID ISRAEL COULD

TRUST HIM.

President Obama: FROM

THE CHIPS ARE DOWN, I HAVE

ISRAEL'S BACK.

Reporter: DESPITE

THOSE WORDS OF SUPPORT,

JONATHAN FRASER TOLD CBN'S

JOHN JESSUP THAT RELATIONS

BETWEEN PRESIDENT OBAMA

AND PRIME MINISTER

NETANYAHU WERE TERRIBLE.

THEY REALLY DIDN'T

AGREE ON MUCH, IF ANYTHING

AT ALL.

THE GOOD NEWS, THOUGH,

DESPITE ALL OF THAT, WAS

THAT THE TIES AT KIND OF

THE GRASSROOTS LEVEL WERE

STILL VERY STRONG.

CONGRESS STILL MAINTAINED

A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH

ISRAEL.

Reporter: ISRAEL

QUESTIONEDED OBAMA'S

SUPPORT AGAINST WHEN HE

REFUSED TO VETO A DEAL

LAST YEAR.

BETTER NO DEAL THAN A

TERRIBLE DEAL.

Reporter: DISCUSSIONS

ABOUT IRAN AND THE NUCLEAR

DEAL ARE EXPECTED TO

DOMINATE THE

TRUMP-NETANYAHU MEETING.

AND THEY'LL ALSO DISCUSS

THE WAR IN SYRIA.

NETANYAHU APPEARED UP BEAT

WHEN HE ARRIVED IN THE

U.S.

PRESIDENT TRUMP AND I

SEE EYE TO EYE ON THE

DANGERS EMANATING.

Reporter: AND THE

SETTLEMENTS IN EAST

JERUSALEM AND THE WEST

BANK DON'T HELP THE

PROCESS WITH THE

PALESTINIANS, AND GOING

FORWARD IS NOT A GOOD

THING FOR PEACE.

BUT OVERALL, THE TWO

LEADERS ARE EXPECTED TO

WORK VERY WELL TOGETHER.

GARY LANE, CBN NEWS.

Pat: THANKS, GARY.

> BACK TO THE LEAKS THAT

ARE TAKING PLACE -- I

ASKED OUR NEWS TEAM IF

THEY WOULD GIVE ME SOME

INFORMATION ON THIS.

HOW DO YOU GET RID OF

SOMEBODY IF YOU FIND

SOMEBODY IS TRYING TO

DESTROY YOU?

IT CAN TAKE 170 DAYS TO

FIRE A FEDERAL EMPLOYEE.

A BOSS GOES THROUGH A

12-STEP PROCESS, AND AN

APPEAL CAN TAKE OVER 240

DAYS.

THAT'S WHAT THE FEDERAL

LAW SAYS.

THE HEAVY BUREAUCRACY IN

THE FEDERAL CIVIL SERVICE

UNIONS -- IT IS SO HARD TO

FIRE THEM, GOVERNMENT

BOSSES OFTEN DON'T EVEN

TRY.

BUT, ON THE OTHER HAND, IF

IT IS PROVEN THAT LAWS ARE

BROKEN, IT COULD BE

DIFFERENT.

HERE IS WHAT THE U.S. CODE

SAYS ABOUT FIRING

EMPLOYEES WHO GIVE OUT

CLASSIFIED INFORMATION,

QUOTE, "WHOEVER KNOWINGLY

OR WILLFULLY COMMUNICATES

OR MAKES AVAILABLE TO AN

UNAUTHORIZED PERSON OR

PUBLISHES ANY CLASSIFIED

INFORMATION, INTELLIGENCE

FROM THE COMMUNICATIONS OF

ANY FOREIGN GOVERNMENT,

SHALL BE FINED UNDER THIS

TITLE OR IMPRISONED NOT

MORE THAN 10 YEARS OR

BOTH."

SO THE TIME HAS COME TO

SEND THE JUSTICE

DEPARTMENT AND THE F.B.I.

OUT FINDING WHO THOSE

LEAKERS ARE AND PUT THEM

IN JAIL.

I THINK IT IS TIME WE STOP

WORRYING ABOUT WHAT

GENERAL FLYNN KNEW OR

DIDN'T KNOW OR WHO HE DID

OR DIDN'T TALK TO, BUT THE

QUESTION IS SOMEBODY WAS

TUNING IN ON THOSE

TELEPHONE CONVERSATION,

AND THAT IS A FEDERAL

CRIME.

APPARENTLY THERE ARE ONLY

O ABOUABOUT FOUR PEOPLE WHO

WOULD HAVE KNOWN THIS, AND

IT COULD HAVE GONE ALL THE

WAY UP TO PRESIDENT OBAMA

TO AUTHORIZE IT.

THAT'S THE SHOCKING PART.

OUR CBN POLITICAL NEWS

CORRESPONDENT DAVID BRODY

IS WITH US NOW.

WHAT IS THE SPECULATION

AMONG THE REPUBLICANS,

WERE THE OBAMA HOLDOVER HOLDOVERS

IDENTIFIED?

THERE HAVE BEEN SOME

OBAMA HOLDOVERS THAT ARE

RESPONSIBLE FOR SOME OF

THIS LEAKED INFORMATION.

WHEN PRESSED FOR NAMES,

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO

NECESSARILY GO THERE, BUT

THERE IS SPECULATION.

START WITH THREE NAMES:

SALLY YATES, LET GO BY

PRESIDENT TRUMP BECAUSE

SHE WOULDN'T HOLD UP THAT

SO-CALLED TRAVEL BAN.

SO THERE IS HER.

SHE OBVIOUSLY EXPRESSED

SOME CONCERNS ABOUT

MICHAEL FLYNN AND THOSE

CONVERSATIONS WITH RUSSIA.

AND SHE IS OUT THERE

POTENTIALLY CAUSING SOME

OF THIS.

AND THEN THERE IS JAMES

CLAPPER, THE FORMER HEAD

OF THE D.N.I., WHO IS NO

LONGER PART OF ALL OF

THIS.

AND THEN THERE IS JOHN

BRENNAN -- PRESIDENT TRUMP

AND JOHN BRENNAN, THERE IS

NO LOVE LOST BETWEEN THOSE

TWO FOLKS.

THOSE ARE THREE FOLKS THAT

A LOT OF FOLKS ARE LOOKING

AT.

I WILL SAY THIS, PAT:

THERE IS A WHITE HOUSE

COMPONENT THERE.

THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLKS

THAT DID NOT LIKE MICHAEL

FLYNN, THE WAY HE WAS

OPERATING AND THE STYLE

AND ALL OF THAT.

AND MY SOURCES ARE SAYING

THIS IS ALSO COMING FROM

INSIDE THE WHITE HOUSE,

BELIEVE IT OR NOT.

THE BOTTOM LINE IS THERE

ARE A LOT OF LOOPHOLES TO

BE FILLED IN HERE.

Pat: ARE THEY OUT OF

SHAPE BECAUSE TRUMP WANTS

TO REFORM -- I KNOW FLYNN

SAID HE WANTED TO REFORM

THE INTELLIGENCE AGENCY.

David: THAT'S A BIG

DRIVER.

I WAS JUST SPEAKING WITH

NEWT GINGRICH ON THE

PHONE -- ACTUALLY, HE

TEXTED ME THIS

INFORMATION, WHICH IS VERY

INTERESTING.

DID YOU KNOW THAT 99% OF

THE ACTUAL CONTRIBUTIONS

TO A PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN

WENT TO HILLARY CLINTON AT

THE STATE DEPARTMENT.

99% OFED FEDERAL EMPLOYEES

AT THE STATE DEPARTMENT --

THOSE CONTRIBUTIONS WENT

TO HILLARY CLINTON.

97% OF THE FEDERAL

EMPLOYEES AT THE JUSTICE

DEPARTMENT, THOSE

CONTRIBUTIONS WENT TO

HILLARY CLINTON.

HERE IS NEWT GINGRICH'S

LARGER POINT, THE LEFT

WING IDIOLOGS, HAVE BEEN

FILLING UP THE STATE

DEPARTMENT AND THE JUST

DEPARTMENT FOR MANY, MANY

YEARS.

THIS IS PART OF WHAT IS

DRIVING MUCH OF THIS

DISCUSSION THIS MORNING ON

LEAKS.

Pat: HOW ARE THEY

GOING TO GET RID OF THEM?

I JUST READ THE INCREDIBLE

HURTLES THAT SOMEBODY HAS

TO GO THROUGH TO FIRE

THESE PEOPLE.

HOW CAN TRUMP GET RID OF

THESE PEOPLE?

HE HAS GOT TO CLEAN HOUSE.

David: IT IS

EXTREMELY DIFFICULT.

POLITICALLY, IT HAS BEEN

HARDER TO DO AT THE

FEDERAL BUREAUCRACY LEVEL

BECAUSE SOMETIMES THERE

ARE, OH, I DON'T KNOW,

MAYBE POLITICAL

WITCHHUNTS.

HUNTS.

NEWT GINGRICH WAS TELLING

ME HAVE YOU A TWO-PRONG

PROBLEM.

YOU'VE GOT THE FEDERAL

BUREAUCRACY, AND THEN

YOU'VE GOT ESTABLISHMENT

FOLKS, LEFT AND RIGHT, WHO

DO NOT WANT TO GIVE UP

POWER.

SO YOU HAVE MORE OF THAT

MOLASSES OF GOVERNMENT

THAT MAKES IT, AS YOU

SAID, MUCH, MUCH HARDER TO

GET RID OF A FEDERAL

EMPLOYEE.

SO THERE ARE A LOT OF

PROBLEMS.

AND THEN YOU THROW IN THE

FACT THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP

IS TRYING TO IMPLEMENT

MORE OF A CONSERVATIVE

AGENDA, AND THAT MAKES IT

EVEN HARDER BECAUSE OF

WHAT I JUST SAID BECAUSE

OF THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT

AND THE STATE DEPARTMENT.

Pat: DAVID, THANK YOU

FOR YOUR INSIGHTS, I

APPRECIATE IT.

FOLKS, AGAIN, THE PRESS IS

AGAINST HIM, SO -- YOU

KNOW, YOU READ THE BIBLE,

AND THERE WAS A POINT IN

THERE WHERE GOD TOLD

JEREMIAH, AND HE TOLD

THEM, TELL THEM TO TAKE

THE OATH OF OF

NEBUCHADNEZZAR, AND THEY

DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT. AND

IMAGINE A VAIN THING AND

THEY REVOLTED AGAINST THE

ANOINTED.

SOMEHOW THE LORD'S PLAN IS

BEING PUT IN PLACE FOR

AMERICA, AND THESE PEOPLE

ARE NOT ONLY VOTING

AGAINST TRUMP, THE BUT

THEY'RE VOTING AGAINST

WHAT GOD'S PLAN IS FOR

AMERICA.

THESE SO-CALLED

PROGRESSIVES ARE TRYING TO

TAKE AWAY THE COUNTRY WE

LOVE.

THEY WANT COLLECTIVISM AND

SOCIALISM.

AND WE LOOKING AT A

FREEDOM FROM THIS TERRIBLE

OVERARCHING BUREAUCRACY,

AND THEY WANT TO FIGHT AS

MUCH AS THEY CAN.

I THINK THE GOOD NEWS

IS -- THE BIBLE SAYS THAT

HE THAT SITS IN THE

HEAVENS WILL LAUGH THEM TO

SCORN.

I THINK TRUMP HAS

SOMETHING ON HIS SIDE THAT

IS A LOT MORE POWERFUL

THAN THE MEDIA.

> IN OTHER NEWS,

PRESIDENT TRUMP IS TAKING

MORE ACTIONS TO FINALLY

GET THE ECONOMY MOVING

AGAIN.

EFREM GRAHAM HAS THAT.

Efrem: THE PRESIDENT

HAS SIGNED INTO LAW A

MEASURE TO KILL SOME

FEDERAL RULES UNDER THE

DODD-FRANK FINANCIAL

RULES.

THE RULES REVOLVED

REVEALING INFORMATION

ABOUT PAYMENTS TO

GOVERNMENT.

BUT THE WALL STREET

JOURNAL REPORTS THAT THE

INDUSTRY MADE IT HARDER TO

COMPETE AGAINST OIL

COMPANIES IN OTHER

COUNTRIES WHO DIDN'T HAVE

TO ABIDE BY SUCH RULES.

THE PRESIDENT SAID

REPEALING THE RULES WILL

BE GOOD FOR JOBS AND THE

INDUSTRY.

President Trump:

WE'RE BRINGING BACK JOBS

AT THE PLANT LEVEL AND AT

THE MINE LEVEL.

YOU SEE WHAT IS GOING ON

WITH THE STOCK MARKET.

THEY KNOW THAT WE KNOW

WHAT WE'RE DOING, SO IT IS

GOING UP IN RECORD CLIPS.

Efrem: AND ANOTHER

BLOW FOR OBAMACARE AS

HUMANA HAS BECOME THE

FIRST INSURANCE COMPANY TO

DROP OUT OF THE OBAMACARE

EXCHANGES FOR 2018.

PAT?

Pat: THANK YOU VERY

MUCH.

THERE IS A STUDY THAT WENT

ON, AND ENGINEERS STUDIED

THE INFRASTRUCTURE,

ESPECIALLY THE BRIDGES --

THE BRIDGES THAT CROSS THE

VARIOUS RIVERS AND HARBORS

OF OUR NATION.

THEY FOUND THAT 56,000

BRIDGES HAVE BEEN

CLASSIFIED AS STRUCTURALLY

DEFICIENT.

NOW, THAT'S THE LATEST

FROM THE AMERICAN ROAD AND

TRANSPORTATION BUILDERS

ASSOCIATION.

THAT'S WHAT THEY SAY.

THEY INCLUDE SOME OF THE

MAJOR BRIDGES YOU'RE

FAMILIAR WITH, INCLUDING

THE MEMORIAL BRIDGE IN

WASHINGTON, D.C.

YOU COULD BE DRIVING

ALONG, AND THE NEXT THING

YOU KNOW, A SECTION OF

THAT BRIDGE COULD

COLLAPSE.

AND PEOPLE GET KILLED.

THIS THING IS VERY

SERIOUS.

BRIDGES CAN FALL BACK AND

FORTH AND COLLAPSE INTO

THE WATER.

AND 56,000 OF THEM ARE

DEFICIENT.

SO YOU TALK ABOUT AN

INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRAM --

WE REALLY ARE DISEESHT IN DEFICIENT IN

THAT AND WE NEED TO DO

SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.

> THERE IS SOMETHING

ELSE IN YOUR PERSONAL LIFE

YOU OUGHT TO DO SOMETHING

ABOUT, TOO.

EFREM HAS THAT STORY.

Efrem: HEART DISEASE

COULD BECOME EXTREMELY

EXPENSIVE IN THE NEXT FEW

DECADES.

IT COULD COST $1 TRILLION

PER YEAR BY THE YEAR 2025.

THERE THE FACT THAT THE

BABY BOOM GENERATION IS

GETTING OLDER.

TIME TO PROTECT YOUR

HEART.

PAT?

Pat: I HAVE PROTECTED

MINE.

DO YOU SEE THAT?

THAT'S MY PACEMAKER.

IT'S A LITTLE METAL THING.

Wendy: DID IT FEEL

FUNNY?

IT DID AT FIRST, RIGHT?

Pat: THEY TAKE THE

NODES AND SCREW IT INTO

YOUR HEART.

AND THAT THING JUST PUMPS

AWAY.

Wendy: THE GOOD NEWS

IS YOU HAVEN'T HAD TO GET

ZAPPED LATELY.

Pat: NO MORE ZAPPING.

THE GUY SAID, YOU'RE GOING

TO BE ZAPPED SO OFTEN.

I SAID, OKAY, LET'S DO

THAT.

THE ONLY PROBLEM IS IF WE

HAVE A THERMO NUCLEAR

EXPLOSION, IT MIGHT KILL

ME.

YOU TALK ABOUT A ZOMBIE

APOCALYPSE.

IF THERE IS A SOLAR FLARE,

MY HEART MAY STOP BEATING.

OTHER THAN THAT, IT IS

GOING REAL GREAT.

YOU KNOW, LADIES AND

GENTLEMEN, WHAT IS CAUSING

ALL OF THIS IS INGESTING

HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP.

AND IT'S IN EVERYTHING.

IT'S IN CEREAL AND IT'S IN

BABY FOOD.

AND IT'S IN ALL OF THE

SOFT DRINKS.

AND WE ARE INGESTING SO

MUCH SUGAR.

IT IS NOT FAT.

IT IS NOT BEING CAUSED BY

FAT.

IT IS BEING CAUSED BY

SUGAR.

AN INGESTION OF AN

ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF SUGAR.

IT IS CAUSING

INFLAMMATION.

AND SO INSIDE US ARE JUST

LIKE LITTLE FURNACES, AND

THE LITTLE FURN NATIONS

ARFURNACES AREBREAKING DOWN OUR BODIES,

ESPECIALLY OUR HEARTS.

$1 TRILLION A YEAR IT IS

GOING TO COST THIS ECONOMY

IN A VERY SHORT TIME.

WE SHOULD BAN A LOT OF

THAT STUFF.

THE FOOD COMPANIES OUGHT

TO SHAPE UP AND THEY OUGHT

TO DO SOMETHING.

YOU'VE GOT SMOKING -- LOTS

OF SMOKING.

YOU'VE GOT ALL OF THIS

SUGAR.

HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP

IS DEADLY.

YOU DON'T INGEST THAT

STUFF, WENDY?

Wendy: NEVER.

WELL, MAYBE SOMETIMES.

Pat: YOU READ ALL OF

THE LABELS?

Wendy: I AM A LABEL

READER.

EAT AN EGG YOLK AND PUT

DOWN THE SUGAR.

Pat: I HAD TWO BOILED

EGGS FOR DINNER.

YUM, YUM.

Wendy: EGGS ARE THE

PERFECT FOOD.

> HERE IS A CHILLING

FACT, IN THE LAST FEW

YEARS, THE NUMBER OF

VIOLENT INCIDENTS INSIDE

CHURCHES HAS DOUBLED, AND

NOW MANY CONGREGATIONS ARE

RAMPING UP THEIR SECURITY.

WE ARE SHEPHERD, AND AS

SHEPHERDS, PART OF OUR JOB

IS TO PROTECT THE SHEEP

GOD HAS PUT UNDER OUR

CARE.

Wendy: LEARN WHAT YOU

CAN DO TO PROTECT

YOURSELF.

Pat: WHEN YOU WANT TO

BUNDLE UP YOUR LITTLE

CHILDREN AND GET THEM IN

THE CAR AND TAKE THEM TO

CHURCH, AND YOU FIGURE

THAT'S THE PLACE WHERE YOU

CAN GET SOLACE, YOU CAN

GET YOUR SOUL FED, WHERE

YOU CAN PRAISE THE LORD

AND HAVE SECURITY.

AND YOU THINK, BOY, I CAN

DO THAT IN CHURCH.

BUT AS CHUCK HOLTON

REPORTS, IT IS BECOMING

MORE AND MORE IMPORTANT

FOR THE BIG CHURCHES

AROUND THE COUNTRY TO HAVE

SECURITY.

WATCH THIS.

Reporter: IN THE WAKE

OF VIOLENT ATTACKS, LIKE

THE ONE OF CHARLESTON,

SOUTH CAROLINA, IN 2016,

MANY CHURCHES HAVE SEEN

THE NEED FOR A DEDICATED

SECURITY PROGRAM TO HELP

KEEP THEIR CONGREGATIONS

SAFE.

SINCE 2011, THE NUMBER OF

VIOLENT INCIDENCES

OCCURRING IN CHURCHES HAS

DOUBLED.

SECURITY EXPERT TIM

MILLER.

WE SEE DOMESTIC

SITUATIONS DEVELOPING.

WE SEE A LOT OF FOLKS THAT

ARE MENTALLY ILL AT THE

TIME AND NEEDING CARE.

WE ALSO SEE POTENTIALLY

VIOLENT PEOPLE.

WE SEE PEOPLE THAT ARE

ANGRY AT LIFE, AT THE

CHURCH.

Reporter: IN FACT,

THE MAJORITY OF INCIDENTS

ARE NOT HIGH-PROFILE MASS

KILLINGS LIKE THE 2016

CHARLESTON SHOOTINGS.

MOST HAVE TO DO WITH

PERSONAL CONFLICTS OR EVEN

ROBBERIES.

BUT CHURCH SECURITY TEAMS

MUST BE PREPARED TO DEAL

WITH ANY SITUATION THAT

ARISES.

SO UNLESS THEY'RE ACTIVELY

VIOLENT, OUR FIRST

PRIORITY IS ASSESSING THEM

AND GETTING THEM THE HELP

THEY NEED.

Reporter: THE

SECURITY TEAMS SHOULD

BROADEN THEIR FOCUS.

AND WE TEND TO THINK OF

EMERGENCIES AS VIOLENCE.

BUT THE REALITY IS IT IS

MUCH MORE LIKELY AT YOUR

CHURCH YOU'RE GOING THE

HAVE A WEATHER EMERGENCY

OR YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A

FIRE EMERGENCY.

WHEN I'M TALKING TO

CHURCHES, THE FIRST THING

I ENCOURAGE THEM TO DO IS

DEVELOP A SIMPLE, CLEAR,

PLAN.

Reporter: IT WILL GET

MORE DIFFICULT AS THE

CHURCH GROWS.

MULTI-CAMPUS CHURCHES ARE

BECOMING MORE AND MORE

COMMON AROUND THE UNITED

STATES.

FOR CHRIST FELLOWSHIP

CHURCH HERE IN FLORIDA,

THEY HAVE EIGHT CAMPUSES

AND MINISTER TO ALMOST

30,000 PEOPLE EVERY

WEEKEND.

BUT FOR THE SECURITY TEAM

AT CHRIST FELLOWSHIP, IT

PRESENTS SOME VERY UNIQUE

CHALLENGES.

FOR CHURCHES LIKE THIS

ONE, MAKING FULL USE OF

AVAILABLE TECHNOLOGY HELPS

KEEP TABS ON WHAT IS

HAPPENING ON ALL OF THE

CAMPUSES.

SINCE SIX AND 10 VIOLENT

CHURCHES HAPPEN OUTSIDE OF

CHURCH TIMES.

COMMUNICATION AND CAMERAS

ARE MOSTLY REACTIVE TOOLS.

SO TIM SAYS REGULAR

SECURITY TRAINING MAKES

ALL OF THE DIFFERENCE.

THEY KNOW WHAT TO LOOK

FOR.

THEY KNOW HOW TO RESPOND

TO CRIES SEIZES.

CRISES.

THEY ARE TRAINING ON A

REGULAR BASIS.

THE COMPARISON WOULD BE

HAVING A WORSHIP TEAM THAT

NEVER REHEARSES.

SO IF PEOPLE UNDERSTAND

AND PREPARE PRIOR TO A

CRISIS, SCIENCE SHOWS

THEIR SURVIVAL RATE IN AN

ACTUAL CRISIS GOES UP 90%.

Reporter: TODD

MULLINS IS THE SENIOR

PASTOR FOR CHRIST

FELLOWSHIP CHURCH.

I USED TO THINK THAT A

STRONG SECURITY MINISTRY

IN THE CHURCH WOULD WORK

AGAINST THAT WARM, LOVING

ENVIRONMENT THAT PASTORS

WANT TO CREATE.

BUT THE TRUTH IS WE ARE

SHEPHERDS.

AND AS SHEPHERDS, PART OF

OUR JOB IS TO PROTECT THE

SHEEP THAT GOD HAS PUT

UNDER OUR CARE.

AND IN THE DAY AND AGE WE

LIVE IN, WE HAVE TO BE

AWARE THERE IS AN EVIL ONE

THAT WOULD LOVE TO ROB,

KILL AND DESTROY US, JESUS

SAID IN JOHN 10: 10.

Reporter: THE

SECURITY TEAM AT CHRIST

FELLOWSHIP HAS BECOME

FULLY INDECES GRATEDE INTEGRATED INTO THE

CHURCH TODAY.

THEY BRING A SENSE OF

PEACE AND CALM.

THEY KNOW WE'RE TAKING IT

SERIOUSLY.

AND WE'RE TAKING THE

PROTECTION OF THEIR

FAMILIES AND SECURITY

SERIOUSLY.

THAT PUTS THEM AT EASY

THEY'RE ABLE TO WORSHIP

FREELY.

AT THE SAME TIME, WE

HAVE TO BE PREPARED,

TRAINED, AND EQUIPPED TO

HANDLE ANY TYPE OF

EMERGENCY THAT MAY COME.

SETTING UP A STRONG

SECURITY PRESENCE IN YOUR

CHURCH IS NOT SAYING YOU

DON'T DEPEND ON GOD.

WE KNOW GOD CAN DO IN

SECONDS THAN MAN CAN DO IN

CENTURIES.

SO OUR SECURITY TEAM IS A

SPIRITUAL TEAM.

WE PRAY.

WE BELIEVE GOD TO PUT UP

HIS ANGELS AROUND OUR

CHURCH FAMILY.

WE PRAY THAT EVIL MEN WILL

BE KEPT AWAY.

WE ARE PRAYING AS IF IT

ALL DEPENDS ON GOD, BUT WE

NEED TO WORK AS IF IT ALL

DEPENDS ON US.

WE HAVE TO DO OUR PART TO

PROTECT THE PEOPLE THAT

GOD IS ENTRUSTING TO OUR

CARE.

Reporter: EVEN IF

YOUR CHURCH DOESN'T HAVE A

BIG BUDGET, SECURITY IS

SOMETHING NO CHURCH CAN

IGNORE.

SECURITY CAN BEGIN WITH

ONE PERSON WHO HAS A HEART

FOR THIS THAT CAN STEP UP

AND BEGIN TO LOOK AT THE

SECURITY NEEDS OF A CHURCH

AND BEGIN TO CREATE A

SAFER ENVIRONMENT FOR THAT

CHURCH FAMILY.

Reporter: I'M CHUCK

HOLTON FOR CBN NEWS.

Pat: THANKS, CHUCK.

I DON'T MAKE A BIL BIG DEAL OF

IT, BUT WE AT CBN HAVE A

BIG CAMPUS AND A

UNIVERSITY AND WE HAVE

THOUSANDS OF STUDENTS

INVOLVED, CLOSE TO A

THOUSAND RESIDENTIAL, BUT

ALSO COMING IN ON A DAILY

BASIS.

AND OUR TEAM, BY THE WAY,

ARE CERTIFIED POLICE

OFFICERS.

THEY'VE GONE THROUGH THE

TRAINING OF THE VIRGINIA

BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND MORE OF OUR GUYS

HAPPEN TO HAVE A HUNDRED

PERCENT PERFECT SCORE

SHOOTING WITH A PISTLE.

PISTOL.

WE DON'T MAKE A BIG THING

OF IT.

I DON'T AND THE REST OF US

DON'T.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU

HAVE TO HAVE PROS IN

THERE.

YOU DON'T WANT A BUNCH OF

AMATEURS.

IF YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE

CAREFULLY TRAINED, AND IN

OUR CASE, THEY ARE

CERTIFIED AS POLICE

OFFICERS WITH THE CITY

WHERE THEY SERVE, AND THEY

WORK SEAMLESSLY WITH THE

LOCAL POLICE AND THAT'S A

NICE FEELING.

WENDY?

Wendy: COMING UP, A

BIKER GETS HIT IN A

HEAD-ON COLLISION, AND HE

WASN'T WEARING A HELMET.

I COULDN'T GET OUT OF

THE WAY.

THE ONLY THING I COULD DO

WAS DROP THE MOTORCYCLE.

I ENDED UP UNDERNEATH THE

TRUCK AND WAS DRUG FOR

QUITE A WHILE.

Wendy: WATCH HIM MAKE

A FULL RECOVERY.

PLUS, WE'LL BE PRAYING FOR

YOU, SO DON'T GO AWAY.

Pat: I DON'T MEAN TO

BEAT UP ON

HARLEY-DAVIDSON, BUT THOSE

BIG HOGS ARE DANGERS, AND

THE LITTLE ONES ARE EVEN

MORE DANGEROUS.

I SEE PEOPLE FLYING ALONG

THE HIGHWAYS AT 85 MILES

PER HOUR ON THOSE THINGS

AND IT IS DANGEROUS.

AND THERE WAS A GUY NAMED

MICHAEL PRUETT WHO WAS

ACTUALLY ROAD KILL AFTER

GETTING INTO AN ACCIDENT

ON HIS MOTORCYCLE.

WITHIN MINUTES OF HITTING

THE PAVEMENT, MICHAEL'S

FAMILY AND FRIENDS BEGAN

PRAYING, AND HERE IS HOW

IT SAVED HIS LIFE.

I COULDN'T SWERVE ONE

WAY OR THE OTHER.

I COULDN'T GET OUT OF THE

WAY.

THE ONLY THING I COULD DO

WAS DROP THE MOTORCYCLE.

Reporter: MICHAEL

PRUETT WAS A STRUGGLING

REAL ESTATE AGENT.

HE WAS NEWLY MARRIED TO

DAWN, BUT HAD MIXED UP

PRIORITIES.

IT WAS TENSE IN OUR

HOUSE.

WE WEREN'T GETTING ALONG

VERY WELL.

I WAS TRYING TO CONTROL MY

OWN LIFE.

THE THINGS THAT GAVE ME

SELF-CONFIDENCE WERE

MATERIAL THINGS: MONEY,

SUCCESS, GETTING A SALE,

THINGS LIKE THAT.

Reporter: IN THE

SUMMER OF 2012, HE WAS ON

HIS WAY HOME FROM SHOWING

A HOUSE WHEN A TRUCK

PULLED OUT IN FRONT OF

MICHAEL'S MOTORCYCLE.

MICHAEL WASN'T WEARING A

HELMET.

WE HAD A HEAD-ON

COLLISION.

I WAS KNOCKED UNCONSCIOUS.

I ENDED UP UNDERNEATH THE

TRUCK AND WAS DRUG FOR

QUITE A WHILE.

Reporter: MEMBERS OF

THE FIRE DEPARTMENT

WITNESSED THE ACTIO ACCIDENT

FROM A NEARBY RESTAURANT

AND IN MINUTES WERE ON THE

SCENE.

WE SAW A PATIENT LAYING

IN A POOL OF BLOOD WITH

HALF OF HIS SCALP MISSING.

WE HAD A SUSPICION THERE

MIGHT BE A SPINE INJURY.

THE BEST THING WE COULD DO

FOR HIM WAS GET HIM TO A

HIGHER LEVEL OF CARE.

Reporter: HE WAS

RUSHED TO THE HOSPITAL.

BACK AT THEIR HOME,

MICHAEL'S WIFE, DAWN,

COULD HEAR THE SIRENS.

YOU COULD HEAR THEM

EVERY DAY, BUT THEN I

HEARD ANOTHER ONE AND

ANOTHER ONE.

AND I INSTANTLY KNEW IT

WAS MICHAEL.

AND I IMMEDIATELY TRIED TO

TEXT HIM.

AND I REMEMBER PACING AND

PACING, SAYING, ANSWER THE

TEXT.

ANSWER THE TEXT.

Reporter: JUST THEN

THE HOSPITAL CALLED,

TELLING DAWN WHAT SHE

ALREADY KNEW.

SHE DROVE TO THE HOSPITAL

AND WAS OVERWHELMED WHEN

SHE SAW MICHAEL'S

CONDITION.

IT WAS TERRIFYING.

IT WAS A TERRIFYING

MOMENT.

AND I FELT SO HELPLESS.

AND THERE WAS NOTHING I

COULD DO.

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

AND IN THAT MOMENT, I

THOUGHT, HEY, DAWN, THE

ONE THING YOU CAN DO IS

YOU CAN PRAY.

AND YOU NEED TO CALL

PEOPLE THAT CAN COME AND

PRAY WITH YOU.

Reporter: HALF AN

HOUR LATER, THE E.R. WAS

FILLED WITH FRIENDS

PRAYING FOR HIS HEALING.

SO WHEN DAN AND I

ARRIVED TO THE HOSPITAL,

WE LAID HANDS ON MICHAEL

TO PRAY FOR THE POWER OF

GOD'S HEALING.

IT WAS THAT SIMPLE.

HE NEEDED DESPERATE

HEALING FROM CHRIST.

SO THE WAY WE KNOW HOW TO

DO THAT IS TO LAY HANDS

AND PRAY.

THAT'S THE POWER THAT WE

HAVE AS CHRISTIANS AND AS

BELIEVERS, THAT GOD HAS

GIVEN US.

Reporter: AN M.R.I.

SHOWED HE HAD SHATTERED

PARTS OF HIS SPINAL COLUMN

AND HIS SPINAL CORD WAS

NEARLY SEVERED.

WHEN THE DOCTOR CAME IN

THAT LAST TIME AND LOOKED

AT ME, I COULD TELL BY THE

LOOK IN HIS FACE THAT HE

THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS

GOING TO HAVE A VERY GRIM

OUTCOME.

Reporter: MICHAEL

NEEDED CARE BEYOND WHAT

THE LOCAL HOSPITAL COULD

PROVIDE.

AS HE WAS PREPPED FOR A

LIFE FLIGHT TO A HOSPITAL

IN SALT LAKE CITY, HIS

WIFE AND FRIENDS GOT IN

THE WAY.

WE FELT WE NEEDED TO

LAY HANDS ON HIM ONE MORE

TIME BEFORE THEY ACTUALLY

ROLLED HIM OUT TO THE

CHOPPER AND WE HELD THEM

UP.

THE MEDICAL PEOPLE

THOUGHT WE WERE INSANE AND

THEY WERE IRRITATED

BECAUSE WE WERE BLOCKING

HIS MEDICAL CARE.

AND WE DIDN'T CARE.

THAT'S WHAT WE WERE GOING

TO DO, WE WERE GOING TO

PRAY.

Reporter: IN SALT

LAKE CITY, THE SPINAL

SURGEON PREPPED FOR A

HIGH-RISK SURGERY.

IT WAS A VERY DIFFICULT

SPINAL FRACTURE.

THIS JUNIO INJURY IS REALLY

DANGEROUS AND WE SEE

NOBODY THAT ISN'T

PARALYZED FROM THIS TYPE

OF INJURY.

Reporter: DAWN

CONTINUED TO PRAY.

I KNEW IN MY SOUL THAT

THIS WOULD TAKE A

SPIRITUAL HEALING FOR

MICHAEL TO BE FULLY

RESTORED.

I KNEW THAT.

Reporter: MICHAEL'S

SISTER JOINED DAWN IN

PRAYER.

SHE WAS INVITING THE

HOLY SPIRIT TO COME IN

THERE AND TO ADMINISTER

ALL OF THE RESTORATION AND

PEACE AND GRACE AND

HEALING THAT GOD PROMISES

US EVERY DAY.

SHE JUST GRABBED AHOLD OF

IT AND BROUGHT IT INTO

THAT ROOM FOR HER BROTHER.

Reporter: AFTER

SEVERAL TENSE HOURS, DAWN

WAS TOLD THE SURGERY WAS

SUCCESSFUL.

AS MICHAEL BEGAN HIS

RECOVERY, DAWN SAID HER

FAITH BEGAN TO CHANGE.

IT FUNDAMENTALLY

CHANGED THE WAY I WALK IN

MY RELATIONSHIP WITH

JESUS.

I GUESS IT IS LIKE THE GOD

OF THE BIBLE THAT YOU READ

ABOUT AND THAT YOU KNOW IS

TRUE, AND THAT YOU BELIEVE

IN AND YOU SURRENDERED

YOUR LIFE TO AND YOU RELY

ON FOR SALVATION, BECAME

REAL.

HE CAN DO ALL THINGS IF

YOU JUST HAVE FAITH AND

YOU ASK AND YOU BELIEVE

AND YOU SURRENDER.

Reporter: WHEN HE

AWOKE, GOD SAYS HIS

RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD

BECAME A PRIORITY LIKE

NEVER BEFORE.

TRUSTED HIM FROM THE

MINUTE I KNEW WHAT HAD

HAPPENED TO ME.

THE RESULT IS THIS HAS

BROUGHT ME SO MUCH CLOSER

IN MY RELATIONSHIP WITH

GOT.

I'VE GOTTEN OFF THE THRONE

OF MY LIFE AND PUT JESUS

CHRIST ON THE THRONE OF MY

LIFE.

Reporter: OVER THE

NEXT SEVERAL WEEKS, HIS

PHYSICAL HEALING WENT

BEYOND WHAT MANY THOUGHT

POSSIBLE.

IT IS SIGNIFICANT THAT

HE IS COMPLETELY HEALED

TODAY SIMPLY BY THE FACT

HE COULD HAVE BEEN

PARALYZED BY US TRYING TO

FIX HIM.

IT TRULY IS A MIRACLE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW OR WHY HE

IS WALKING AND IS FULLY

FUNCTIONAL AND HAS NO

BRAIN DAMAGE AND NO LOSS

OF MOTOR FUNCTION

WHATSOEVER.

Reporter: IN HIS BOOK

"THE HARD ROAD," MICHAEL

SAYS GOD USED THE ACCIDENT

AND RECOVERY TO BRING

ORDER AND PEACE TO HIS

ENTIRE FAMILY.

GOD CAN MAKE GREAT

THINGS OUT OF VERY

DIFFICULT TIMES IF WE

PRESS INTO HIM AND WE LEAN

ON HIM AND WE BRING HIM

INTO OUR SITUATIONS.

THE MORE I LOOKED AT

EVERYTHING SURROUNDING

THIS, AND EVERYTHING THAT

HAS HAPPENED, THE MORE I

SAW GOD'S FINGERPRINT ALL

OVER THIS.

HE IS PRESENT.

HE IS REAL.

HE HAS NOT CHANGED AT ALL.

HE IS THE SAME AS HE WAS.

JESUS CHRIST IS THE SAME

YESTERDAY, TODAY, AND

FOREVER.

HE HAS NOT CHANGED.

AND HE IS STILL PRESENT IN

OUR LIVES AND STILL LOVES

AND CARES FOR US.

Pat: WHAT A MIRACLE.

THAT IS A MIRACLE OF GOD.

BUT YOU KNOW SOMETHING, WE

BELIEVE -- HOW MANY OF YOU

BELIEVE THAT WHEN YOU DIE,

IF YOU BELIEVE IN JESUS,

YOU'RE GOING TO GO TO

HEAVEN?

WELL, WHAT THAT SAYS IS

YOU BELIEVE THAT THIS BODY

YOU HAVE IS GOING TO DIE.

IT'S GOING TO LIE IN THE

DIRT.

IT'S GOING TO BE RECREATED

INTO A NEW BODY, THAT

YOU'RE GOING TO RISE OUT

OF THAT GRAVE IN NEWNESS

OF LIFE, AND YOU'RE GOING

TO LIVE FOREVER WITH HIM.

THAT'S WHAT IT MEANS WHEN

YOU SAY I BELIEVE IN

SALVATION.

YOU SAY, DO YOU RECKON THE

LORD CAN HEAL A BROKEN

BACK?

OH, NO, I DON'T BELIEVE

THAT.

BUT YOU BELIEVE YOU CAN

HAVE A WHOLE NEW BODY AND

HE WILL TAKE YOU OUT OF

THE GRAVE?

WHICH IS HARDER?

IT IS HARDER TO GIVE YOU A

BRAND NEW BODY THAN TO FIX

WHAT IS BROKEN.

GOD CAN FIX IT.

WE'RE GOING TO PRAY FOR

YOU TODAY BECAUSE I

BELIEVE IN MIRACLES.

I BELIEVE IN THE GOD WHO

IS THE CREATOR OF HEAVEN

AND EARTH.

HERE IS A REPORT THAT COME

FROM US FROM A TOWN IN

WISCONSIN.

ELAINE HAD A FOOT PROBLEM

FOR SEVERAL WEEKS.

AND WENDY, YOU SAID,

QUOTE, "THERE ARE A LOT OF

FOOT PROBLEMS.

SOME PEOPLE HAVE HAD

PROBLEMS FOR MONTHS, VERY

PAINFUL, AND GOD IS

HEALING THEM.

PUT YOUR HAND OUT AND

TOUCH YOUR FEET."

SO ELAINE DID JUST THAT

AND SHE PRAYED WITH WENDY,

AND THE NEXT MORNING THERE

WAS NO PAIN AND SHE WAS

PAIN-FREE.

Wendy: GERARDO

SPILLED A CHEMICAL ON HIS

HAND FROM DOING HOUSEWORK.

THE SKIN WOULD PEEL AND

BLEED.

SKIN CREAM AND BANDAGES

WOULD HELP TEMPORARILY,

BUT IT WOULD ALWAYS

RETURN.

THEN ONE DAY HE WAS

WATCHING "THE 700 CLUB"

WHEN HE HEARD YOU GIVE A

WORD OF KNOWLEDGE, PAT,

SAYING "PSORIASIS BEING

HEALED IN JESUS' NAME."

AFTER CLAIMING THAT WORD

FOR HIMSELF, HE SAW THE

SKIN BEGIN TO HEAL UP, AND

TWO WEEKS LATER IT WAS

TOTALLY GONE AND NEVER

RETURNED.

Pat: I DON'T KNOW

GERARDO, BUT GOD KNOWS

HIM.

HE KNOWS EVERYTHING ABOUT

YOU.

FOR ALL OF THE GOOD OR

BAD, HE LOVES YOU

REGARDLESS.

HE LOVES YOU A LOT.

HE WANTS TO TOUCH YOU,

HEAL YOU, BRING YOU INTO

LIFE.

WENDY AND I ARE GOING TO

JOIN HANDS AND WE'RE GOING

TO BELIEVE GOD FOR YOU.

THE BIBLE SAYS IF TWO OF

YOU WILL AGREE, TOUCHING

ANYTHING, IT WILL BE DONE

FOR YOU BY MY FATHER IN

HEAVEN.

WE'RE GOING TO AGREE RIGHT

NOW IN JESUS' NAME.

THANK YOU, LORD.

I AGREE WITH MY SISTER IN

CHRIST.

WE AGREE TOGETHER RIGHT

NOW.

OH, YOU'VE GOT A HEART

MURMUR.

AND YOU HAVE ANGINA, AND

YOU HAVE THESE SHOOTING

PAINS.

RIGHT NOW THAT CONGESTION

HAS OPENED UP AND YOUR

HEART IS GOING TO BE

COMPLETELY WHOLE, AND ALL

OF THE PAIN IS LEAVING IN

JESUS' NAME.

TOUCH!

WENDY?

Wendy: THERE IS

SOMEONE NAMED MARY AND YOU

HAVE A BRAIN ANEURYSM.

GOD IS TOUCHING YOU RIGHT

NOW.

AND YOU ARE BEING HEALED.

THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE

WATCHING THIS STORY THAT

HAVE BACK PROBLEMS AND

THEY'RE SAYING, WHY NOT

ME, LORD?

I NEED A HEALING IN MY

BACK.

REACH UP RIGHT NOW, GOD IS

TOUCHING YOUR BACK AND

YOUR SPINE, AND I SPEAK

PERFECT ALIGNMENT.

GOD IS TOUCHING PEOPLE AND

BRINGING ALIGNMENT RIGHT

NOW IN JESUS' NAME.

Pat: THERE IS A MAN,

I THINK HIS NAME IS MIKE,

AND IN THE ARCH OF YOUR

FOOT THERE IS AN INFECTION

THAT WON'T GO AWAY.

RIGHT NOW REACH DOWN AND

TOUCH YOUR FOOT.

GOD IS COMPLETELY HEALING

WHATEVER SORE IS THERE.

YOU'RE HEALED.

WENDY?

Wendy: THERE IS A LOT

OF PEOPLE THERE SAYING,

LORD, I JUST WANT PEACE.

IF YOU'LL JUST GIVE ME

THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY.

THE LORD IS SAYING OKAY,

AND HE IS TOUCHING YOU

RIGHT NOW WITH HIS GREAT

PEACE AND LOVE.

Pat: FATHER, WE GIVE

YOU ALL OF THE AUDIENCE,

THE PEOPLE WHO ARE

WATCHING WHEREVER THEY

ARE, LORD, THEY'VE GOT

FAMILY PROBLEMS, FINANCIAL

PROBLEMS.

THEY'VE CRIED UT T OUT TO YOU,

AND TOUCH THEM WITH YOUR

GREAT LOVE.

IN JESUS' NAME.

AMEN.

Wendy: UP NEXT, RIVA

AND HER HUSBAND HAD A

THRIVING CHURCH UNTIL HE

CHEATED ON HER AND THEN

DIED OF A DRUG OVERDOSE.

SHE JOINS US TO TELL US

THE SIDE OF THE STORY YOU

WON'T READ IN THE

HEADLINES.

DON'T GO AWAY.

AND WELCOME BACK TO

"THE 700 CLUB."

A CATHOLIC HOSPITAL IN NEW

JERSEY IS DENYING IT

DISCRIMINATED AGAINST A

TRANSGENDER PATIENT

BECAUSE DOCTORS WOULD NOT

PERFORM UTERUS REMOVAL

SURGERY.

THAT PATIENT IS SUING THE

HOSPITAL.

ST.ST. JOSEPH'S SAYS IT WOULD

VIOLATE A CONSTITUTIONAL

RIGHT TO FREEDOM OF

RELIGION.

> THE MAN ACCUSED OF

CARRYING OUT THE NEW

YEAR'S DAY ATTACK AT AN

ISTANBUL NIGHTCLUB SAYS

HIS INTENT WAS TO KILL

CHRISTIANS.

REUTERS REPORTS THE GUNMAN

TOLD A COURT OFFICIAL HIS

MOTIVES ON MONDAY.

39 PEOPLE WERE KILLED

DURING THE MASSACRE, AND

AT LEAST 65 OTHERS WERE

INJURED.

THE ISLAMIC STATE CLAIMED

RESPONSIBILITY FOR IT THE

DAY AFTER THE ATTACK,

CALLING IT REVENGE FOR

TURKEY'S MILITARY

INVOLVEMENT IN SYRIA.

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PAT AND TERRY ARE BACK

WITH MUCH MORE OF "THE 700

CLUB."

IT IS COMING UP RIGHT

AFTER THIS.

Wendy: PASTOR ZACHARY

TIMS HAD THE PREACHING

FIRE OF T.D. JAKES.

WITH HIS WIFE, REVA, BY

HIS SIDE, HE BUILT A

THRIVING MINISTRY, AND

JUST AS QUICKLY, IT ALL

FELL APART.

Reporter: REVA TIMS

AND HER LATER HUSBAND,

ZACHARY, WERE THE PASTORS

OF A MEGA CHURCH IN

FLORIDA.

REVA WAS DEVASTATED WHEN

NEWS OF HIS INFIDELITY

SURFACED.

SHE TRIED TO KEEP THEIR

MARRIAGE TOGETHER, BUT

THREE YEARS LATER THEY

DIVORCED.

AND THEN IN 20 11, HIS

SUDDEN DEATH FROM AN

OVERDOSE BROKE HER HEART

AND SHOCKED THE CHRISTIAN

COMMUNITY.

IN HER BOOK, "WHEN IT ALL

COMES TOGETHER," REVA

SHARES HOW SHE OVERCOME

BETRAYAL, HEARTBREAK, AND

GRIEF.

Wendy: AND REVA TIMS

IS HER WITH US NOW.

THANKS FOR BEING WITH US.

THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

Wendy: YOU WENT FROM

THIS INCREDIBLY THRIVING

CHURCH TO MEETING WITH

LAWYERS AND FIGHTING WITH

THEM, AND IT WENT -- HOW

DID YOU EVER IMAGINE IT

COULD GO SO WRONG?

I NEVER IMAGINED THAT

IT WOULD GO WRONG.

IT NEVER OCCURRED TO ME

THAT THAT COULD HAPPEN.

THAT'S WHAT THE FIRST BOOK

WAS ABOUT, WHEN IT ALL

FALLS APART, HOW DO YOU

DEAL WITH THAT.

I TALKED ABOUT HOW YOU CAN

BECOME BETTER, NOT BITTER.

Wendy: IN THE

BEGINNING, EVERYTHING WAS

GOING GREAT, AND THEN YOU

FOUND OUT THAT YOUR

HUSBAND WAS CHEATING ON

YOU AND TAKING DRUGS, TOO?

I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT

THAT.

DURING OUR MARRIAGE, WHEN

I FOUND OUT THERE WAS

INFIDELITY IN THE MARRIAGE

IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT.

I SAVED MYSELF FOR HIM.

WE HAVE FOUR CHILDREN AND

WONDERFUL MINISTRY, AND

THERE WAS SO MUCH TAKING

PLACE THAT WAS GREAT AT

THE TIME, BUT THEN WHEN

THAT HAPPENED --

Wendy: WHAT DID HE DO

WHEN YOU CONFRONTED HIM

ABOUT THE INFIDELITY?

WE WERE ABLE TO TALK

ABOUT IT, BUT NEVER

GETTING REALLY ALL OF THE

ANSWERS.

Wendy: SOME IN THE

CHURCH KNEW ABOUT IT

BECAUSE HE HAD TAKEN A

LEAVE OF ABSENCE.

WHAT DID THEY TELL YOU?

JUST TO STAY IN IT.

Wendy: TO FORGIVE HIM

AND MOVE ON.

RIGHT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, FORGIVING

IS ONE THING.

YOU CAN FORGIVE AND GOD

CAN MAKE YOUR MARRIAGE

STRONGER, BUT IT TAKES

TWO.

Wendy: HOW DOES THAT

MAKE YOU FEEL WHEN PEOPLE

IN YOUR CHURCH WERE

SAYING, JUST DEAL WITH IT.

SUCK IT UP.

MOVE ON.

AT THE TIME IT WAS

HURTFUL, BUT THEN I ALSO

KNEW THEY DIDN'T KNOW ALL

OF THE DETAILS.

IN MINISTER E TREE, WHEN

IMINISTRY, WHEN IT ISREALLY LARGE LIKE THA T,

PEOPLE DON'T KNOW

EVERYTHING.

BUT WHEN YOU'RE GOING

THROUGH IT, IT IS VERY

PAINFUL.

ONE THING YOU HAVE TO

REALIZE WHEN YOU'RE GOING

THROUGH A SITUATION LIKE

THAT, YOU HAVE TO LOVE

THOSE PARTIES.

Wendy: YOUR HUSBAND

DIED IN 2011.

YOU SAW HIM A WEEK BEFORE

HE DIED.

WHAT HAD HAPPENED?

WE WERE IN PUERTO RICO

ON A FAMILY TRIP.

HIS MOM WAS WITH US, AND

WE JUST HAD A WONDERFUL

TIME.

IT WAS A THING THAT GOD

ALLOWED FOR MY KIDS, TO

SPEND TIME WITH THEIR DAD.

AND SOON AFTER THAT, WE

GOT WORD HE HAD PASSED ON

A SUNDAY MORNING.

THAT WAS VERY HORRIFIC FOR

US, TO HEAR THAT.

Wendy: I CAN'T

IMAGINE THAT.

TWO YEARS AFTER THAT AN

AUTOPSY REVEALED THE IT

HAPPENED FROM SOME TYPE OF

DRUG COCKTAIL.

WAS THAT SURPRISING TO

YOU?

YES, IT WAS.

Wendy: YOU DIDN'T

KNOW HE WAS INTO THE

DRUGS?

NO.

Wendy: THAT'S

INCREDIBLE.

YOU'RE IN ORLANDO AND YOU

ARE A FULL-TIME PREACHER.

TELL US THE GOOD NEWS.

YOU'RE BACK HERE.

THIS DID NOT STOP YOU,

REVA.

YOU'RE BACK PREACHING AND

MINISTERING.

ABSOLUTELY.

I'M JUST IN AWE OF GOD'S

GOODNESS.

WHEN I WROTE THE OTHER

BOOK, THAT WAS THREE YEARS

INTO A SEVEN-YEAR JOURNEY.

AND NOW GOD HAS BROUGHT

EVERYTHING TOGETHER.

OUR MINISTRY IS DOING WELL

IN ORLANDO.

WE ARE 70 YEARS OLD NOW.

AND WE'RE ABOUT 1500

MEMBERS, AND IT IS JUST A

BEAUTIFUL THING.

WE'RE AN OUTREACH

MINISTRY, AND WE'RE SEEING

GOD DO MIRACULOUS THINGS

RIGHT THERE IN THE ORLANDO

AREA.

Wendy: AND YOU'RE THE

LEAD PASTOR?

I'M THE LEAD PASTOR.

WE STARTED THE CHURCH FROM

NOTHING AND GOD HAS REALLY

BLESSED US.

Wendy: DID YOU EVER

SEE YOURSELF IN THAT ROLE?

NO, NEVER.

BUT I HEARD THE VOICE OF

THE LORD.

IT WAS ALMOST LIKE A JONAH

EXPERIENCE.

YOUR PURPOSE IS ALWAYS

WRAPPED UP IN ME, SAYETH

THE LORD.

HE GAVE ME A CALL.

HE SAID, YOU'RE GOING TO

HAVE TO CARRY OUT THIS

ASSIGNMENT THAT I HAVE

GIVEN YOU.

AND THE PROOF IS IN THE

PUDDING.

Wendy: YOU CERTAINLY

WENT THROUGH SOME BAD

THINGS.

WHAT DID YOU LEARN FROM

THIS ENTIRE PROCESS?

I UNDERSTAND THAT LIFE

IS LIKE A TAPESTRY.

YOU SEE THE KNOTTED PIECES

AT THE BOTTOM, AND IT

LOOKS LIKE CHAOS AND IT

LOOKS HORRIBLE, BUT GOD IS

CREATING A MASTERPIECE.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, HE

KNOWS OUR ENDING FROM OUR

BEGINNING.

HE GIVES US A GLIMPSE OF

OUR FUTURE EVEN IN THE

CHAOS.

HE LET'S US SEE PIECES OF

WHERE WE ARE TO BE, EVEN

IN THE CHAOS, WHEN WE WALK

WITH HIM.

I LEARN WITH GOD THAT

HE'LL NEVER LEAVE YOU NOR

FORESAKE YOU.

YOU KNOW THAT GOD IS GOING

TO PUT IT BACK TOGETHER

AGAIN, AND THAT'S YOUR

HOPE, THAT HE CAN REDEEM

THE BROKEN PIECES OF YOUR

LIFE.

Wendy: THERE ARE A

LOT OF PEOPLE WATCHING

RIGHT NOW THAT ARE

IDENTIFYING WITH YOUR

STORY AND WHO MAY FEEL

LIKE THEIR ENTIRE LIFE HAS

JUST FALLEN APART.

REVA, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO

SAY TO THEM?

I WANT TO ENCOURAGE

THEM.

GOD WILL SHOW YOU WHERE

YOU ARE TO GO.

EVEN THOUGH YOU CAN'T PUT

ALL OF THE PIECES TOGETHER

RIGHT NOW, TRY NOT TO MAKE

SENSE OF THE PUZZLE, BUT

MAKE SENSE OF THE GOD THAT

YOU SERVE.

WHEN YOU MAKE SENSE OF HIM

BY GETTING IN WORSHIP, BY

CONFESSING THE WORD, BY

FORGIVING OTHERS, YOU

BEGIN TO SEE ALL OF THE

OTHER PIECES START COMING

TOGETHER.

FOCUS ON THE ONE WHO CAN

CHANGE THE CIRCUMSTANCES,

DON'T FOCUS ON THE

PROBLEM.

Wendy: THERE IS SO

MUCH MORE IN YOUR AMAZING

BOOK "WHEN IT ALL COMES

TOGETHER FOR YOU."

AND I'M SO THRILLED FOR

YOU.

YOUR CHURCH IS CALLED --

MAJESTIC LIFE CHURCH.

Wendy: CHECK IT OUT

IF YOU'RE IN ORLANDO.

YOU CAN GET HER BOOK,

"WHEN IT ALL COMES

TOGETHER," WHEREVER BOOKS

ARE SOLD.

REVA, GOD BLESS YOU.

GOD BLESS YOU.

Wendy: ONE VIEWER

SAYS, "THE ONLY LOVE I

HAVE EVER KNOWN HAS COME

FROM PEOPLE WHO END UP

HURTING ME.

NOW I PUSH PEOPLE EWAY AWAY

THAT HAVE GOOD INTENTIONS.

HOW CAN I STOP PUSHING

PEOPLE WHO HAVE GOOD

INTENTIONS FOR MY LIFE."

PAT IS GETTING READY FOR

ANOTHER ROUND OF "BRING IT

Wendy: AND WELCOME

BACK TO "THE 700 CLUB."

IT IS TIME TO "BRING IT

ON", AND PAT IS IN THE HOT

SEAT.

THIS VIEWER SAYS, "GROWING

UP, WAS ALWAYS VIEWED AS A

BURDEN TO MY FAMILY.

THE ONLY LOVE I HAVE EVER

KNOWN ALWAYS HURT ME, AND

BECAUSE OF THIS, I FIND

MYSELF HOLDING ON TO THOSE

WHO CAUSE ME PAIN.

EVERYONE WHO HAS GOOD

INTENTIONS, I PUSH THEM

AWAY BECAUSE IN MY MIND

THEY'RE GOING TO LEAVE ME

ANYWAY.

HOW CAN I STOP PUSHING

PEOPLE OUT OF MY LIFE?"

Pat: DO YOU NOTICE

HOW MANY TIMES YOU WERE

SAYING, IT WAS MY LIFE, I

DID THIS, ME, MY -- YOU

KNOW, IF YOU COME TO THE

LORD, AND THIS IS A HARD

THING TO SAY, BUT IT'S

WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN, YOU

HAVE TO DIE.

THE OLD MAN HAS TO DIE AND

SOMETHING NEW HAS TO COME

ALIVE IN JESUS.

IT IS THE OLD MAN THAT

GETS HURT.

YOU KNOW, IT'S

SELF-CONSCIOUS THAT SAYS

I'M HURT, YOU'VE WOUNDED

ME, AND I'VE BEEN HURT.

YOU'VE BETRAYED ME AND I

CAN'T TRUST YOU AND SO

FORTH.

WHY?

BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T DIED.

ONCE YOU'RE DEAD AND

YOU'RE ALIVE IN JESUS,

THEN IT'S HIS PROBLEM,

IT'S HIS LIFE, IT'S HIS

PEOPLE, AND FOR YOU TO

LIVE IS CHRIST.

HE TAKES OVER YOUR LIFE.

AND SO ALL OF THESE HURTS

AND STUFF LIKE THAT DON'T

MATTER ANYMORE BECAUSE

THEY FALL ON HIM.

HE IS THE ONE, AND IF YOUR

LIFE IS CENTEREDED IN HIM,

IT IS NOT I THAT LIVE, BUT

CHRIST THAT LIVES IN ME.

Wendy: THIS VIEWER

SAYS, "OVER THE LAST 70

YEARS, AMERICA HAS GONE

FROM A GREAT NATION INTO

ONE THAT IS VIEWED ACROSS

THE WORLD AS A LAND OF

DEBATCHERY, A LAND FILLED

WITH SEX, DRUGS.

SINGLE MOTHERHOOD AND

DRUGS ARE NOW COMMON.

CAN AMERICA EVER RETURN TO

THE MORALS IT HAD IN THE

PAST?"

Pat: THEY TALKED

ABOUT TRUMP'S STATEMENT AS

BEING DARK, WELL, THAT

STATEMENT YOU HAD IS

PRETTY DARK.

GOD LOVES AMERICA.

THERE ARE MILLIONS OF

PEOPLE IN AMERICA WHO GO

TO CHURCH AND MILLIONS OF

PEOPLE WHO LOVE THE LORD.

WE HAVE ALLOWED THIS

DEBAUCHERY.

THE WHOLE WORLD IS DRUNK

WITH THE WINE OF YOUR

FORNICATION.

WE HAVE MADE THE WORLD

DRUNK WITH OUR PORNOGRAPHY

AND THE EXCESSES OF OUR

LIFE.

WE USED TO SEE A SHINING

CITY SET ON A HILL.

WE REALLY ARE IMMORAL,

YOU'RE RIGHT.

BUT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO

HAVE A REVIVAL.

WE'RE IN THE MIDST OF A

REVIVAL RIGHT NOW.

ALONG THE WAY, THE WHOLE

WORLD IS HAVING -- THERE

IS A MOVE OF GOD

THROUGHOUT THE WORLD THAT

IS OVERPOWERING.

IT IS JUST WONDERFUL.

AMONG THOSE SPIRIT-FILLED

CHURCHES, THERE ARE

600 MILLION SPIRIT-FILLED

PEOPLE.

AND THAT NUMBER IS GOING

TO A BILLION.

PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE

BAPTISM OF THE HOLY

SPIRIT.

GOD IS MOVING.

SO DON'T DISPAIR.

JUST PRAISE GOD AND SHINE

WHERE YOU'RE PLANTED AND

WATCH WHAT HAPPENS.

Wendy: AMEN.

I'M ENCOURAGED.

MARK SAYS, "OVER THE

YEARS, I HAVE HEARD MANY

PASTORS STATE THAT

SOLOMON'S TEMPLE MUST BE

REBUILT BEFORE CHRIST

RETURNS.

WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT

SAY THAT?"

Pat: IT TALKS ABOUT

THE ANTI-CHRIST STANDING

WHERE HE SHOULDN'T STAND,

YOU KNOW.

THAT WAS TAKEN OUT OF

DANIEL.

I'M NOT SURE THAT YOU YOU HAVE

TO HAVE A REBUILDING OF

THE TEMPLE, SOLOMON'S

TEMPLE, BEFORE THE LORD

COMES.

THERE ARE SOME WHO FEEL IT

WILL HAPPEN AS PART OF THE

RESTORATION.

IT WOULDN'T BE TW TOO BIG A

DEAL FOR THE JEWS TO BUILD

SOMETHING ON THE TEMPLE

MOUNT.

YOU CAN BUILD A BUILDING

IN A YEAR.

IT DOESN'T TAKE 50 YEARS

TO DO IT.

SO IT COULD BE DONE AND

THEY COULD HAVE A

RESTORATION.

BUT THE IDEA OF RESTORING

ANIMAL SACRIFICE AND GOING

THROUGH ALL OF THAT -- I

THINK JESUS IS OUR

SACRIFICE, AND HE HAS DIED

FOR THE SINS OF MANKIND

ONCE AND FOR ALL.

I THINK HE FULFILLED THE

LAW HIMSELF.

I REALLY DON'T THINK THAT

WE HAVE TO DO THAT.

BUT THAT'S WHERE IT COMES

FROM.

THEY TALK ABOUT THE

ANTI-CHRIST STANDING ON

THE WING OF THE TEMPLE.

COULD THAT HAVE ALREADY

HAPPENED?

THE ANSWER IS, YES, IT

COULD.

Wendy: JESUS SAID, IF

YOU TEAR DOWN THIS TEMPLE,

I'LL BUILD IT BACK IN

THREE DAYS.

THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND

WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT.

HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE

RESURRECTION.

Pat: OUR PUR MINUTE

COMES FROM ROMANS: "IF GOD

IS FOR US, WHO CAN BE

AGAINST US?"

THAT'S ALL OF THE TIME

WE'VE GOT.

GOD BLESS YOU.

WE'LL BE TALKING TO YOU

LATER.

FOR WENDY AND ALL OF US,

THIS IS PAT ROBERTSON.

WE'LL SEE YOU TOMORROW.

BYE-BYE.

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